Daniel Faraday and WHEN he’s gone
Written by admin on August 4, 2008
At Comic Con ‘08 they showed a new Dharma video with Dr. Marvin Candle (aka. Wickman/Wax). It isn’t an orientation video like the others, and he tells us that his real name is infact, Pierre Chang.
There are bits of distortion in the video, but the basis of it is this: the video is filmed 30 years ago but Chang knows of the impending purge that will kill off the Dharma Initiative (Including himself), that the President of the USA is Bush, and that people will communicate information via something called “Internet”.
In this video, off screen, is a voice of the man filming the video and to me, it sounds alot like Daniel Faraday. Now, how could it possibly be Faraday if the video is filmed 30 years ago?
Let’s take a look at some Daniel facts:
- Daniel is a scientist and is fascinated with the Island
- Daniel seems to know alot more about the Islands properties than anyone else
- He has hinted on numberous occasions that time on the Island isn’t what it appears to be
- He helped Desmond in 1996 when Desmond needed a constant, but Daniel seemed to have no recollection of it until after the event occured with Desmond on the Island - Daniel later refered to his notebook and the words “If anything goes wrong, Desmond Hume will be your constant” - or the words to that effect.
- When taking a group of Losties on the boat back to the freighter, he seems to know that “when” he gets back to the Island there may be a problem.
In the new video, we know that Pierre Chang knows of information that could only have been given to him from someone in the future (or someone who is very psychic).
When Ben “moved” the Island, I believe that the Losties/Others etc. on the Island moved in time to 2007/08, but the boat that Daniel was on went back in time 30 years. The Island still appears to Daniel in the right place, and on first look Daniel thinks that everything is fine - until he arrives on the Island and finds that the inhabitants are infact the Dharma Initiative and he has gone back in time 30 years.
This explains his voice in the video, this explains Chang’s future knowledge because Daniel relayed it to him. Now they’ve recorded this video for someone (Charlotte, Miles etc.) to find in the future to help Daniel get back to their time. Whether or not they are successful in helping Daniel is something I’m not sure of.
If they are able to help him, the chances are they can change the timeline and reset anything wrong that has happened.
Or, if you really can’t change the past/future, then perhaps everything that’s already happened will inevetiably happen, and perhaps there is a much older version of Daniel on the Island somewhere. Perhaps, he’s in between places and goes by the name of Jacob?
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August 4th, 2008 at 6:26 am
That is a GREAT theory! Sure would bring some interesting twists to Lost. If that turned out to be true, wouldn’t the other people on the raft with Faraday end up back in time too? I’m trying to remember who those people were…
August 4th, 2008 at 6:30 am
Thanks! :)
I think the people with Daniel were just “extra Losties”. I know Charlotte, Miles, Juliette and Sawyer are on the Island, and I’m pretty sure Rose and Bernard are there too…
I think it was just Daniel as a main character on the boat, but yeah, if Daniel has gone back in time the people on the boat would’ve gone with him. Maybe they end up working for Dharma and die in the purge?
Eeek… ideas are rolling around in my head now :)
Thanks for the comment!
August 6th, 2008 at 4:44 am
Your explanation as to how Daniel could have been in the ‘Pierre Chang’ film, and how this fate could play out in the forthcoming Season 5 is inspired.
It’s the singularly most viable and intriguing means by how Daniel’s character could progress in the show.
(And there’s also a little bit of tragedy in how he and Charlotte will be seperated. . . though she did say the Island was where she was born as well. . .)
So many possibilities. I actually hope you’re spot on, and I don’t often say that about people’s theories.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Thanks for your comment AC :)
It’s not often that I write theories so when I do it’s nice to know that they’re taken seriously (unlike alot of theories floating around the interweb) :)
August 16th, 2008 at 2:23 am
Your blog is interesting!
Keep up the good work!
October 14th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Thank you Alex! :)
October 27th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
I actually believe that Faraday didn’t actually travel back in time… I believe that he was there before. In my opinion Faraday has always been a former DHARMA worker, who survived the Purge and escaped the island somehow. I don’t know why he still looks so young, but hey, look at Richard Alpert ;) This would explain why he started experimenting with Eloise (which was after! the Purge) on consciousness-time-travel in the first place: To use it on himself, to transfer his consciousness back in time to change the events in the past. But as we all know he seems to have lost his memory in the process.
That’s why he was sent to the island by Abaddon (who I’m sure is related to DHARMA), because the island has the right “electromagnetic properties” to activate Daniel’s mind to shift, so that he can change the course of history. This would also explain his notebook including all the information about the Orchid etc.
October 27th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Two more things about this theory of mine: a) Considering the fact that Daniel may have worked on the Orchid (maybe even constructed it!) himself it makes a lot more sense that he tried to make his rats mind travel through time using electromagnetism, which would be an absolutely random and stupid experiment for someone who hasn’t experienced this phenomenon before, i.e. on the island.
b) Sure, the Freighties were sent to “capture Ben Linus”, but what if the Masterplan was something totally different? We were lead to believe that the Science Team around Daniel was some sort of distraction from the Mercenaries who were the actual threat, because Keamy became the main antagonist over the course of Season 4. But what if it was the other way round all along and the mission actually had this purpose: To make Ben activate the Wheel, as someone changed “the rules” and left no other option for him but to move the island. This would an electromagnetic discharge big enough to Shift Daniels mind into the past.
I know its complicated, but think about it, considering the ARG video etc…
October 28th, 2008 at 12:37 am
Ian, thank you for your thoughts, and I have to say all of that does make sense.
I’d never even thought about the possibility that Daniel could’ve been on the island before (especially working for Dharma).
It would also explain why he was crying when they showed the fake wreckage on TV, like he knew on some level that the real survivors were on the island, but he doesn’t know how he knows which is why he got so upset…? Maybe… does that make sense? :)
I like your thoughts alot and I’m really looking forward to the next season to see just what is going on with Daniel :)
November 5th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
mdyayayaya ….. * Many people think *…. the author thanks for the post!
December 24th, 2008 at 11:01 am
I am new to Lost. my wife and I watched Season 1 to end of season for at 2 or 3 shows per night for the last couple of months and now we can’t wait for season 5!!!
Wow, this is great and with Daniel’s Time related activities it would all make sense. his notebook was to rich in island/DHARMA info to have just landed :-)
with time shift/travel, moving islands, strange “brew” and other effects around the island such as life, death, and healing all being not as we know it, I suspect season five will be crazy. We still do not know (or I don’t):
1. Do we have a clue on how John Locke got back and in a coffin? it seems 3yrs have past since the oceanic-6 got back to the USA.
2. Do we know who Jacob is? or only that we see him through speakers like Jack’s dad?
3. what did Ben do when he went into that room within the secret room that caused the smoke monster to show up?
4. Do we know anything about the smoke monster other then its some sort of island security item?
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 am
Aethicus, welcome to the world of Lost - it’s great, isn’t it? :)
Anyway, in answer to your questions:
1. No, we don’t know how Locke got back or how he died… yet.
2. We don’t have a clue who Jacob is, some people think he’s Locke/Jack/Christian/Someone-else-we-already-know. I’m of the opinion that Jacob is just Jacob.
3. I have no idea what Ben did in that secret room.
4. From Darlton’s Dharma Special Access videos they told us that the Smoke Monster was there before Dharma. Other than that, I’m just as clueless :)
January 6th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Great site, glad I stumbled upon this.
Onto Daniel thoughts.
I honestly wrote up a long response to Ian’s post but realized how dumb some of my comments were as they could easily be explained by the fact that Daniel’s memories are screwed up. One of the points I wrote up, however, is dealing with the red head (forgot her name for some reason) Miles hints at the fact that she was on the island previously. If this is true, why hasn’t she said anything to Daniel?
This could either disprove a theory that daniel was previously on the Island (though if I were to have seen this video we are talking about, I’m sure I’d be convinced that daniel uses his time traveling ability to warn the dharma initiative about the others attack)or it could set up some story or flash back dealing with daniel and her in the past. I think that would be pretty cool.
sorry my thoughts are all over the place…
January 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Charlotte! Thats her name…
Also just thought that maybe Daniel and her could have been on the island at different times. Pretty much makes my post useless. lol.
January 7th, 2009 at 1:42 am
Welcome to the site Alex, glad to have you here! :)
It does make you wonder why Charlotte didn’t tell Daniel that she’s been on the island before, even more strange the fact that she may have been born there.
I guess everyone has their secrets and just didn’t want to tell anyone of the real reason she went along with the “freighties”.
Daniel being on the island before is a strong possibility though, especially after seeing the Comic Con Video. Try this link on youtube: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gygsaaqLTjo I’m sure there are alot on youtube to choose from if this isn’t good quality (unfortunately I haven’t got sound on my PC at the moment so it’s difficult to tell :) ).
You’d think if Charlotte was born on the island and she’s in her late 20’s, and Daniel went back in time to around the time she was born, that Daniel would remember. But then again, there are alot of people called Charlotte ;)
Anyway, only a couple more weeks to wait now! :)
January 7th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Wow. Cool video. Really got me thinking. Definitely sounds like Faraday. Another thing I liked was that it some what validated the research they were doing on the island. There was question if the stations were just an expirement on people. For example the notebook that were recorded were sent up a tube and into a field.
Also, he mentioned in the video (Pierre) that they must recreate the work they had done…What if that is Widmore’s whole reason for getting back to the island?
January 7th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Just watched the Constant again, one of my all time favorite episodes of lost. One thing I wondered is why the hell didn’t Desmond tell Menkowski about the whole idea about having a constant??? He could have possibly saved his life and more importantly, fix the communications equipment!
Anyways, after having watched the Constant, I’m feeling more that Daniel may have traveled back in time rather than have been in the past as a Dharma employee filming that video. Wouldn’t he know how to send Eloise into the future in 1996? It seemed in 1996 that he didn’t have any memory problems; and it sort of shows the reasoning why when Desmond questions why Daniel doesn’t cover his head.
Perhaps since he is on the Island he utilizes his knowledge of time travel, or conscious travel,and makes an attempt to talk to Pierre Chang. He could shed light on what the Dharma Initiative is all about since Ben isn’t all the helpful! I think that would be a cool way to learn about the DI.
January 8th, 2009 at 7:05 am
“Anyways, after having watched the Constant, I’m feeling more that Daniel may have traveled back in time rather than have been in the past as a Dharma employee filming that video.”
Yes absolutely. Although it’s an interesting thought that Daniel could’ve been there before, I do think it’s more likely that he’s been sent back in time along with the rest of our favourite “Losties”.
“One thing I wondered is why the hell didn’t Desmond tell Menkowski about the whole idea about having a constant???”
I think by the time Desmond knew about needing a Constant it was too late for Minkowski.
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:12 am
Excellent theory. I’ll co-sign that. I knew Faraday was the guy on the tape.
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
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